Abortion lol
Posted on October 13, 2006 - Filed Under Funny, Philosophy, Politics |
From the Encyclopedia Dramatica article on abortion:
“When it comes to “when life begins”, a poll of aborted babies concluded that none of them minded being aborted too much. Their response was similar to that of a pool of semen, who were also not very distressed at not getting a chance at being persons.”
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Something for Pro-choicers and Pro-lifers to concider…..
World estimations of the number of terminations carried out each year is somewhere between 20 and 88 million.
3,500 per day / 1.3 million per year in America alone.
50% of that 1.3 million claimed failed birth control was to blame.
A further 48% had failed to use any birth control at all.
And 2% had medical reasons.
That means a stagering 98% may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.
I am a 98% pro-lifer, 2% Pro-choicer, who has no religious convictions at all . I didn’t need the fear of god or anything else to come to my decision, just a good sense of what is right and wrong.
You see we were all once a fetus. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate? Would that have been OK?
You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories. In this day and age with terminations being so readily available and so many being carried out, if you make it to full term
you can consider yourself lucky. Lucky you had a mother that made the choice of life for you. Don’t you think they all deserve the same basic human right, LIFE?
I’m all for contraception, prevention is certainly better than termination.
Did you know you can get an implant that is safe, 99.9% effective, and lasts for three years? Just think girls not even a show for three years, wouldn’t that be great? I think too many people rely too heavily on the last option (abortion), I think if abortions weren’t so readily available people would manage their reproductive system far better resulting in a fraction of the number of unwanted pregnancies.
World wide there are over 50 MILLION aborted pregnancies each year. In America 3,500 terminations carried out every day, that’s over 1.3 million every year, 50% of all cases claimed that birth control had been used, 48% admitted they took no precaution, and 2% had a medical reason. That’s a staggering 98% that may have been prevented had an effective birth control been used. Don’t get me wrong, I suspect the percentages in Australia would be much the same.
Just a lot of unnecessary killing.
At the point of conception is when life began for you. This was the start of your existence. Your own personal big bang. Three weeks after conception heart started to beat. First brain waves recorded at six weeks after conception. Seen sucking thumb at seven weeks after conception.
I am convinced that in the not too distant future, people will look back at many of the practices of today with disbelief and horror.
Want to know how to find humanity-?
True humanity can only be achieved, by concidering others/ caring about others, as much as, if not more than yourself.
Until we do we are no more than an uncivilisation, with all the uncivilised things that we do…
Bill Clinton once said that abortions should be available , safe and RARE. He is a very wise man.
I’d like to see an ultrasound in every clinnic to provide a more informed choice before going through with something they may regret.
I’d also like to see birth control made available to all who can’t afford it.
I really hope that you just pasted that response.
“You see we were all once a fetus. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate? Would that have been OK?”
On a purely practical level, getting an abortion would have been nigh on impossible in Ireland then, much as it is now. But leaving that aside, were I to have been aborted, I don’t think that the pulsating clump of cells that I was back then would have been in much of a position to object to the operation, which is exactly the point made by the quote in the initial post. So yeah, it would have been absolutely fine.
“World estimations of the number of terminations carried out each year is somewhere between 20 and 88 million.”
That’s hardly conclusive. What was wrong with 89 million I wonder.
Also, you seem to be of the opinion that the more people born, the better. What use is it to have 88 million more people per year in the world when there are already millions starving? If you want to see the maths of it, look up a Lotka-Volterra model for competitive populations on Wikipedia. By nature of competition, the more people born into the world, the more will die (much more). To put it in your emotive terms, because my mother chose life for me, she allowed me to choose life for my children and them for theirs. But in making these choices, we’re denying life for others, who no one will ever know existed. I worked it out just last week in the case of the US. The population in 1790 was 3.93 million. Without competition, the population of the US now would be 1.33 billion. Today, the population is just under 300 million. Over a billion people don’t even exist because they couldn’t be sustained. That’s just the way it is.
Maybe I’m missing the point and you’re more concerned about the moral implications of abortion, that once you’re conceived, abortion shouldn’t be allowed. But as Cian pointed out, isn’t that all in the minds of those still alive. And if so, your belief that prevention is certainly better than termination is plain ignorance. They’re one and the same. The ‘pulsating clump of cells’ really doesn’t care that much.
“Just a lot of unnecessary killing.”
I beg to differ.
I hope you cut and pasted that responce
“that’s over 1.3 million every year, 50% of all cases claimed that birth control had been used”
Since most birth controls are something like 99.99…% effective how many of these represent the tiny fraction that took sensible precautions and got pregnent against all reasonable odds?
You seem to be saying that contraception is ok but abortions are wrong, which I agree with in general but I don’t belive it’s as simple as that. If someone has an abortion just one second after conception is that wrong? And thats the thin end of the wedge.
Also you seem to be saying that abortion is murder (I can see your reasoning even if I don’t agree) but then you argue that everyone has a right to life. That applies to people, not millions of sperm. You can argue against this only if:
1. You feel you killed millions of your brothers and sisters by being born instead of them.
2. You think every sperm a man produces should be planted in an egg, thus sending the human population skyrocketing. In this case every man will have about a million kids who will all starve.
3. A man should have sex with every woman as many times as possible, otherwise you deny life to their potential unborn children.
Don’t get me wrong here, protecting children from being killed just because their mother doesn’t want them is a noble aim. But this whole issue needs to be decided on a case by case basis.
And I didn’t cut and paste this.
I don’t care about sperm, just the human being created when the sperm and egg are one and implanted in the womb.From that point on were talking about a living human being, just like you and just like me.
Take care…….
I don’t believe that that a person is a person immediatly at conception. Its a sperm and an egg that gradually becomes a person. You can’t say that just because it may become a person it has all a persons rights, in the same way that an egg is not a chicken. Animal rights protesters don’t say that its cruel to lock up live eggs in a cardboard box in your fridge, while it is cruel to do that to a live chicken.
While I will grant you that a zygote cell has a full compliment of DNA (like fully-fledged people), a corpse also has a full compliment of DNA.
Again, while it is true that the zygote cell is living in that it will multiply and grow (unlike, obviously, the dead cells in the corpse), I do not feel that the quality of ‘life’ that these cells possess is sufficiently comparable to that of a fully-fledged person. I feel this way chiefly because zygote cells lack all the mental capacities that people associated with being human, and since the human intellect is what, in my view, sets people apart from other animals, then I feel the quality of life possessed by zygotes is inferior to that possessed by you, me and even my dog, who’s mental capacity also surpasses that of a human zygote.
I apologise for my ‘I hope you pasted that’ comment, that was impolite of me.
If you think the point of conception is NOT when life begins, and all you have is a clump of cells and not a living human being.
Then at least concider this -
Soon after you were conceived you were no more than a clump of cells.
This clump of cells was you at your earliest stage, you had plenty of growing to do but this clump of cells was you none the less. Think about it.
Aren’t you glad you were left unhindered to develope further.
Safe inside your mother’s womb until you were born.
Okay, yes, usually I count that as being a good thing, but I think that is sidestepping the point a bit. I can only count myself lucky because I am alive now. If I was never born, then I wouldn’t be around now to consider how unfortunate I was for never having being born.
wat does lol mean
“lol” stands for ‘laugh (or laughing) out load’, and in the title of this post I’m using it in the way it is commonly used on websites like the Encyclopedia Dramatica.